@dickturpin @lnxw48a1 I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're from the US or the UK? In either case I have no desire at all to join your population, let alone government.

I'm not exactly sure where you're going with the namedropping and claims of seniority, and why you think that giving examples of (apparently?) failing communities would somehow prove the "moderation = tyranny" claim (which I still am not sure is your claim, but as you've chosen not to correct me _twice_, I'm going to assume that I haven't misunderstood you, please do correct me otherwise)..

As for having "productive" discussions, I prefer having conversations either for shits and giggles (with friends or presumptive friends), for genuine exchange of viewpoints and ideas (with either friends or strangers or just others), or for a thousand other purposes. I find that harassment doesn't help for either of these things, and that moderation and community standards does help.