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  1. Colegota El Villano (colegota@gnusocial.villanos.net)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 23:03:34 CET Colegota El Villano Colegota El Villano
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    • Diogo Cordeiro
    @diogo well... video it's nice, your work in !gnusocial it's great and as many people here  I really appreciate it!

    The only matter it's that many people in GNU Social and free networks are here escaping of big corporations and specially Google... so I'm a little confused about it.

    But please don't take it as a criticism. Just thoughts.
    In conversation Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 23:03:34 CET from gnusocial.villanos.net permalink
    • Diogo Cordeiro (diogo@loadaverage.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 17:09:39 CET Diogo Cordeiro Diogo Cordeiro
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      This will be an awesome summer!
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    • Colegota El Villano (colegota@gnusocial.villanos.net)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 21:35:47 CET Colegota El Villano Colegota El Villano
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      • Diogo Cordeiro
      @up201705417 ¿the summer of !gnusocial on the desktop? ;)
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 21:35:47 CET permalink
    • Diogo Cordeiro (diogo@loadaverage.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 21:51:32 CET Diogo Cordeiro Diogo Cordeiro
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      This post was for the video in this page: https://go.diogo.site/gsoc2019
      Let me know if you like it! :)
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Jan-2019 21:51:32 CET permalink
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    • Diogo Cordeiro (diogo@loadaverage.org)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 01:18:45 CET Diogo Cordeiro Diogo Cordeiro
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      Yours concerns about big corporations are understandable and I share them (although I won't deny using their services sometimes, I guess I'm a fixer-upper). But sometimes those organizations do good things too and GSoC is an example of that.

      My activity past summer in GNU social was sponsored by GSoC, and receiving some income for the time I've dedicated was helpful. I have friends that have to work on the summer in order to help their families. Programs like GSoC allow them to contribute to the FLOSS community while receiving some important money for doing something they enjoy.

      GS in GSoC was something I have asked MMN-o for past year but it was ultimately possible thanks to GNU acting as an umbrella organization for its packages. I think GNU understands that GSoC is not something harmful as it brings students to the Open Source world.

      I feel that GNU social needs more developers and I believe GSoC can help with that. Finally, even if those developers may help only for the money in the beginning (it wasn't my case but it is legit for the above mentioned reasons), they will eventually fall in love by GS like us and will be helping whenever possible even without the GSoC income. ;)
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 01:18:45 CET permalink
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    • Colegota El Villano (colegota@gnusocial.villanos.net)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:36:53 CET Colegota El Villano Colegota El Villano
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      • Diogo Cordeiro
      @diogo I understand your reasons, even I did last summer. But you ask for my opinion, ;) so mine it's that "at the tanks never came our people". :)

      Also agree that GS needs more developers, but maybe first we need it's to unblock it. More than a year or two without maintenance nor development and seems it will not change.
      At the other side, more or less a year ago we were waiting for past GSoC hopping time to AP federation, but mostly time to start develop and maintenance again. One year later we are again waiting for GSoC. :)

      I probably miss something and I don't know the reasons, but the fact it seems this project wants to be abandoned at first by GNU/FSF.

      In the meantime, thanks again for your efforts! Please, keep helping GS in the way you consider.

      cc/ @mmn 
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:36:53 CET permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:39:48 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Aral Balkan
      Whenever we can take resources from Google without giving anything back - or maybr even developing anti-Google-stuff - I think we should take those resources. The fact that they get some PR out of it (as @aral constantly complains about) is less important as I think they could get that anyway without contributing to !fs

      Though I agree they shouldn't get any speaker time even if they "platinum sponsor" events.

      cc: @diogo@loadaverage.com
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:39:48 CET permalink
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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:40:40 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Diogo Cordeiro
      ^- cc: @diogo
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:40:40 CET permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:49:09 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Diogo Cordeiro
      Yeah, GNU/FSF have never put any resources in to GNU social apart from maintaining the general !fs politics worldwide.
      Originally Evan had startup grants, I just put in my free time (which I barely have any left nowadays) and @diogo got the gsoc stuff.

      While I enjoy the !ostatus solution much more than ActivityPub maybr we should see what has been generated "outside" of !gnusocial .) Think of how many people have managed to find their way out on the !fediverse even if it's maybe not via GS specifically. But it's all AGPL .)
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:49:09 CET permalink
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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:52:20 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      hannes2peer et al from #EnKompisKompis by developing #qvitter were probably the primary reason we had a steadily growing userbase that eventually included the developers of today's most popular fediverse softwares, just so we don't forget them .)
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:52:20 CET permalink
      Tagomago, J. T-K, Claes Wallin 🇸🇪🇭🇰 and tuttle like this.
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    • Colegota El Villano (colegota@gnusocial.villanos.net)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:53:24 CET Colegota El Villano Colegota El Villano
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      @mmn  and at the other side... do you think it's possible to unblock GS maintenance and development?

      There was a few PR's waiting for approval before Rob Myers remove it accidentally (and I don't know if he can restore it).

      @diogo
      @robmyers account at quitter.se never exists.
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:53:24 CET permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:54:55 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      Oh right, I also applied for and got grants from Internetfonden (.SE) which paid for some !umehack rents, which sort of gave me more free time.
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 07:54:55 CET permalink
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    • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 08:39:34 CET Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @mmn @colegota “When they get PR out of it” negates the “without giving anything back.” What you’re giving back by legitimising them is the thing they need the most. The only thing that will limit Google is regulation. They know this. Eric Schmidt once told me “I wake up every morning and I fight regulation. It’s my job. It’s what I do.” We cannot regulate effectively as long as they remain socially acceptable.

      #SurveillanceCapitalism

      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 08:39:34 CET permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 11:01:27 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      I take what is theirs and use it against them. #SurvivalAnarchism

      cc: @colegota
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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 11:05:02 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      I want to put @diogo as maintainer (or co- if desired) .]
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 11:05:02 CET permalink
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    • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 11:53:17 CET Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @mmn @colegota I’m all for that: https://2018.ar.al/notes/spyware-vs-spyware/

      That’s not what you’re doing when you legitimise them. You’re selling them the one thing they can’t buy from anyone else.

      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 11:53:17 CET permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 13:05:36 CET MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      I'm afraid they can easily buy PR. But as I said, I don't think they should get uncriticised keynote time.
      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 13:05:36 CET permalink
    • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 21-Jan-2019 13:13:05 CET Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @mmn They can easily buy PR from any agency. They can only buy legitimacy from those that have it.

      In conversation Monday, 21-Jan-2019 13:13:05 CET permalink
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    • copyright respecter (kai@ajin.la)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Jan-2019 00:15:20 CET copyright respecter copyright respecter
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      @mmn I thought ActivityPub was an improvement on OStatus?

      In conversation Tuesday, 22-Jan-2019 00:15:20 CET permalink

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